Mike: My name is Mike Wallenfels. At the time at Sierra Designs when just before Mountain Hardwear was starting up my job was national sales manager. I was hired by Jack Gilbert to take on that job. I had never done it before. I’d been a buyer at retail previously and decided that maybe being a sales manager would be my thing and for some reason he decided to take the risk and the chance. When things started at Mountain Hardwear my first job title that I gave myself, because we didn’t really have job descriptions or any guidance in any particular way other than what we needed to do, and my job title was Intergalactic Sales Manager.